From China to Kazakhstan

August 6, 2007 at 8:21 pm 14 comments’ve been avoiding the writing of this entry but it is time to be known: we are no longer adopting from China and are in the process of changing our country of adoption to Kazakhstan.The reason for the delay in publishing our change is the fact that this was a very difficult decision to make. We’ve spent over a year reading about the People’s Republic of China and stories of adoptions from that country. We’ve met with other families who have children from and are in the process of adopting from China. I’ve joined Internet listservs to keep up on current China adoption news and to look for support with our wait. We even took a class, bought books, and a language CD to learn basic Mandarin. All in all we invested a lot of time and emotion in getting ready to adopt a child from this country and were committed to this process and decision.

What initiated our change to Kazakhstan? Basically, the wait for a child from the People’s Republic of China has greatly increased; so much so that I just couldn’t be patient for what could be up to two more years to begin my role as a mother.

First, let me say that the wait time to receive a referral for a child from China is not a science. At this point, referrals could come at a faster rate or slow down. The final straw that broke my patience is the fact that the CCAA, the official processor of adoptions from this country, has been processing the month of November, 2005, since mid April of this year and they are STILL on the month of November with the next hopeful date of fully processed files to reach only LIDs of November 21, 2005.

Since deciding to adopt from China early summer last year, the number of days potential parents must wait for a child referral has gone from an average of 363 days (not quite a year) to 596 days, with the best guess that it is going to get longer.

There are a number of prediction calculators on the web to help you to see, based on actual adoption rate statistics, when hopeful parents will get their referrals. Our LID (log in date), the official day that the CCAA logged our file into their system, is November 14, 2006. The China Adoption Forecast gave me the following information today:

Our prediction for LID 2006-11-16

Our best guess – a weighted average of recent CCAA velocities, guessing that CCAA will perform about as well in the future as they are performing now, but might return to previous trends: 2009-12-11

That’s our best guess for when you might receive your referral. Just at a guess, we can suppose that the CCAA either speeds up or slows down significantly, and show you those dates. If they speed up: 2009-03-05. And if they slow down: 2014-03-14.

Since China generally sends out referrals in a batch about once per month, your referral date could easily vary +/- one month depending on whether you just get included or just get missed in a particular batch.

So, yes, these are projections based on statistics but sometimes you’ve just got to rely on the numbers to make decisions. According to this (and what we’ve been seeing for a while) we wouldn’t become parents until early 2009. I’m sorry, but this is just too darn long. Had we known this a year ago, we never would have started the process with China. But for us, at that time, this country seemed to be the right place to go. Their adoption procedures seemed reputable, we are interested in the culture and history, children are generally healthy and adjust well, there was a wait but 18 months at the most, and there was a lot of guidance and support for adopting from this country.As we’ve progressed through mounds of paperwork, helpful contacts, and the frustration of waiting I believe we’ve become stronger in our conviction to become parents and, with certainty, more open to options to make our dream a reality. Basically, we’ve grown in strength, determination, and courage with this process.So how did we decide to switch to Kazakhstan? It was not an easy decision. The people at MAPS, our adoption agency, were incredibly supportive in helping us to go in the direction that was best for us. I think we spoke to every person in that office more than once in making this change. I know that for myself, to change countries was almost like abandoning a child I had been waiting for…that I had in mind…even if no particular child had been assigned to us at that point.

I won’t go into the specifics on each country and program (including domestic) that we were considering. That’s just too much to write. But the more we considered personal options, available children, cultural preferences, programs in adopting countries, and wait times, the idea of adopting Kazakhstan really started to look more and more attractive.

At this time, we’ve been fingerprinted twice since the beginning of July, are finishing the collection of the very extensive paperwork required to adopt from Kazakhstan (2 copies each of 26 or so types of documentation; all of which need to be notarized and apostilled by the Maine Secretary of State) and are awaiting the arrival of our visa information and FBI checks.

Once everything is in and notary signatures have be reviewed by the state, our dossier is ready to be sent to the Kazakhstan government. From that point the wait is three to six months until travel. Did you read that? Three to six months! We should have our dossier completed and in the mail before the end of this month. Do the math. We should be going to Kazakhstan no later than February to meet our child.

It looks as though I will need to adjust my adoption page. There will be much more information to come as it relates to adoption procedures, culture and history of Kazakhstan, and stories of the people we meet and our journey to a child.

More to come….much more to come!


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14 Comments Add your own

  • 1. John McCatherin & Barbara Kovach  |  August 6, 2007 at 9:43 pm

    Hang in there guys. It’s a great thing you’re doing and will bring you great joy in the long run. Lots of love.

    p.s. We don’t care where the kid is from, we’ll still be here to help teach it to ski — at Sugarloaf, of course.

  • 2. Jeni Macoy  |  August 6, 2007 at 11:07 pm

    I think you made the right decision, and I’m so excited to hear that things will progress that quickly. The spring is a perfect time to become new parents. Love, Jeni

  • 3. mj,alex,zoe and isabel  |  August 7, 2007 at 1:22 am

    Yeeeeha! We love you guys. You will be great parents. Kazakwherever here you come! Hugs, love and good wishes to you and your family on your adventure to be united.

  • 4. Tom Luther  |  August 7, 2007 at 1:35 am

    Wow! It seems like a lifetime ago that you were telling me of your decision to adopt. I’m so sorry you got mired in such a slow and difficult process, but hope that you are back on track now.

    I wish you all the best in your efforts. I know, in the end, they will be successful.


  • 5. Caroline  |  August 7, 2007 at 1:25 pm

    Doug and Kelly, your baby is working really hard to find you, and I’m glad you won’t have to wait so long. Thanks for keeping us all posted. xo Caroline

  • 6. Jim Moulton  |  August 7, 2007 at 3:19 pm

    I will be thinking of you… So much to learn, s much to give… For those of us who need to learn a bit more about this nation:


    Good luck – to all three of you!


  • 7. Stacy Alvarez  |  August 7, 2007 at 6:38 pm

    You are going to be a fantastic mom! Just the patience that you’ve shown during this whole thing should be evidence enough. I am so proud of you and what you are doing. Hang in there! -stacy

  • 8. Amy Cox  |  August 8, 2007 at 12:11 am

    Kel and Doug,
    I can’t wait for the arrival of my little neice or nephew!!! You are going to be great parents and i’m so proud of you for not giving up. This baby is going to be so special to all of us!
    Love you both,

  • 9. J. McDonough  |  August 8, 2007 at 1:36 pm

    So happy that things are looking brighter for you. The wait will be worth it as you bring your baby home. Your patience has been remarkable. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers.

  • 10. Terry Moore  |  August 8, 2007 at 3:40 pm

    It will be a lucky child to have you as a mom no matter where it is born. I wish you guys the best of luck and a pleasant journey to Kazakhstan and into parenthood. I’ll be thinking about you. Finally, a big hello to all of Kelly’s family that I know are very excited to meet the new nephew and grandson.

  • 11. Ellen Norton  |  August 10, 2007 at 1:24 am

    Great news, Kelly! You guys must be so excited. It’ll be fun following this process with you. Hang in there!
    Love, Ellen
    P.S. I have a 21 year old you can practice on….

  • 12. Destiny Michaud  |  August 10, 2007 at 12:09 pm

    Hi guys!
    Just want you to know that even though God’s timing is not our timing, the wait is well worth it. Enjoy one another along the way as life will get crazy (a good crazy) soon enough 🙂
    Much love & prayer for your new arrival,

  • 13. Sheri  |  August 11, 2007 at 4:04 am

    Congrats on making a very difficult decision – one I would have made as well, were I at the same point in a China adoption as you were. I am confident your decision will bring you much joy – plus the Kazakh adoptive community is very close-knit and supportive, and the children are beautiful and healthy. The greatest challenge is the long in-country stay…. a very small price to pay when compared to a lifetime together with your new daughter or son!!

    REJOICE!! You’ll be parents before you know it!!


  • 14. Our Dossier Has Been Mailed « By Chance…..or Not  |  October 6, 2007 at 1:05 pm

    […] 6, 2007 We began the process of changing our country of adoption from China to Kazakhstan in the second week of July. (June and the beginning of July were spent agonizing over whether to […]


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